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Nomic!

Post by AnthonyOstrich »

This is a game that I learned on another forum I used to frequent. I had a lot of fun with it there, so I thought I'd introduce it here too. Some of you may have heard of it. It's called Nomic, and basicly how it works is that players vote on new rules to be added to the game. It gradually grows more complex, but it starts out with just a few starting rules:

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§001:
Any player may set forth a motion to take some official action. Official actions include, but are not limited to, amendmending, adding, or repealing rules.

§002:
All official motions must be in bold and italics and begin with "I make a motion to..." Additionally, official motions must end with "For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as [username]'s motion to...", followed by a summary of the motion's actions, with "[username]" replaced by the motion-maker's username.

§003:
To vote in favor of or against a motion, one must declare one's vote by saying "I cast my vote [in favor of/against] [motion name].

§004:
If at any point there are three votes in favor of a motion, the motion passes and is acted upon. If at any point there are three votes against a motion, the motion fails.
I'll start.

I make a motion to introduce a way of measuring time into the game. One page worth of posts will be considered one in-game year. For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be reffered to as AnthonyOstrich's motion to measure time.
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Re: Nomic!

Post by Scott »

I make a motion to AnthonyOstrich to explain the fun. This may be referred to as Scott's Law.
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Re: Nomic!

Post by AnthonyOstrich »

I cast my vote in favor if of Scott's law law.

Current Measures
  • Scott's Law: 2 in favor, 0 apposed
    AnthonyOstrich's motion to measure time: 1 in favor, 0 apposed.
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Re: Nomic!

Post by Terrabyte20xx »

I cast my vote in favor of Scott's Law.
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Re: Nomic!

Post by AnthonyOstrich »

Scott's law has recived 3 vote in favor, 0 apposed. Scott's Law has passed.

The new rules are as follows:

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    §001:
    Any player may set forth a motion to take some official action. Official actions include, but are not limited to, amendmending, adding, or repealing rules.

    §002:
    All official motions must be in bold and italics and begin with "I make a motion to..." Additionally, official motions must end with "For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as [username]'s motion to...", followed by a summary of the motion's actions, with "[username]" replaced by the motion-maker's username.

    §003:
    To vote in favor of or against a motion, one must declare one's vote by saying "I cast my vote [in favor of/against] [motion name].

    §004:
    If at any point there are three votes in favor of a motion, the motion passes and is acted upon. If at any point there are three votes against a motion, the motion fails.

    §005:
    AnthonyOstrich must explain the fun.


Explanation Of Fun:

Fun, is of course subjective. What's fun to some people might not be fun to others. What's great about Nomic is the players decide the rules. So regardless of their prefrences, the game shifts into the kind of game they like. I admit the begining part where everything is still being established isn't the best part, but it can get pretty exciting once the game really starts to get going. I know I had a lot of fun the last time I played.

Alternative explanation

Current Measures
  • AnthonyOstrich's motion to measure time: 1 in favor, 0 apposed.
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Re: Nomic!

Post by Lobot »

I cast my vote in favor of AnthonyOstrich's motion to measure time.
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Post by Scott »

AnthonyOstrich wrote:Alternative explanation
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I don't understand your motion, but that's only because I'm a good politician. So I cast my vote in favor of AnthonyOstrich's motion to measure time.
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Re: Nomic!

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Scott wrote: I don't understand your motion, but that's only because I'm a good politician.
Well, the motion itself isn't really meant to do anything on it's own. It just sort of sets the standards that other laws can use. For example, if we implement a currency and banking system, we can have players collect a certain amount of interest per year. Or if we implement a map that our players exist on, we have them only able to move a specific distance per year.

Most of the rules which are established early in the game are often standard-setting rules like this (although nothing says they have to be) which sort of pave the way for more exciting rules.

Speaking of which:

I make a motion to create a currency called Galactic Credits. Each player, upon first posting in the thread receive 5 Credits. Players who have already posted in this thread before this motion is put into affect will receive 5 Credits as soon as/if this motion passes. Players may freely give away their credits. Players may also loan credits to other players, at any interest rate, so long as both players agree. (All interest rates will be rounded to the nearest Credit.)

In addition to borrowing Credits from other players, players can also borrow Credits from the InterGalactic Banking Clan. The IGB starts out with 100 Credits and charges 30% interest every in-game year on all debts. Players may only borrow 5 Credits from the IGB. If any player has built up more than 20 Credits worth of debt to the IGB (due to interest), the play must go to debtors' prison for one year unless another player agrees to bail them out for a price equal to the amount of debt owed. While in debtor's prison players cannot make sales, loans, or purchases, but they can vote. After a player leaves debtor's prison, all debt owed to the IGB is abolished, but all property and Credits owned by the player are confiscated.

Players may also deposit credits to the IGB. The IGB give 15% interest per year for these loans. Any requests to deposit or withdraw money from the IGB will not take effect until the beginning of the next year.

For purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as AnthonyOstrich's Motion to create currency.


Current Measures
  • AnthonyOstrich's motion to measure time: 2 in favor, 0 apposed.
    AnthonyOstrich's motion to create currency: 1 in favor, 0 apposed.
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Re: Nomic!

Post by Lobot »

If I'm getting this right, I believe that AnthonyOstrich's motion to measure time passed: your assumed vote when you proposed it, Scott's vote, and my vote.

I cast my vote against AnthonyOstrich's motion to create currency and suggest that somebody propose a simpler method of currency.
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Re: Nomic!

Post by AnthonyOstrich »

If I'm getting this right, I believe that AnthonyOstrich's motion to measure time passed: your assumed vote when you proposed it, Scott's vote, and my vote.
Oh, right. Sorry, I didn't notice your vote there.
I cast my vote against AnthonyOstrich's motion to create currency and suggest that somebody propose a simpler method of currency.
I don't really think it's as complicated as it seems. I was just trying to cover all the bases. Then again, you're free to propose another motion for currency if you'd like. After all, it won't be any fun if I'm the one making all the laws. (I should know. I'm the official explainer of fun.)

The new rules are as follows:

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    §001:
    Any player may set forth a motion to take some official action. Official actions include, but are not limited to, amendmending, adding, or repealing rules.

    §002:
    All official motions must be in bold and italics and begin with "I make a motion to..." Additionally, official motions must end with "For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as [username]'s motion to...", followed by a summary of the motion's actions, with "[username]" replaced by the motion-maker's username.

    §003:
    To vote in favor of or against a motion, one must declare one's vote by saying "I cast my vote [in favor of/against] [motion name].

    §004:
    If at any point there are three votes in favor of a motion, the motion passes and is acted upon. If at any point there are three votes against a motion, the motion fails.

    §005:
    AnthonyOstrich must explain the fun.

    §006:
    Time in the game is measured in years. One page worth of posts is considered one year.

Current Measures
  • AnthonyOstrich's motion to create currency: 1 in favor, 1 apposed.
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Post by Slayer »

I cast my vote against AnthonyOstrich's Motion to create currency and ask for an alternative method.
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Re: Nomic!

Post by AnthonyOstrich »

I cast my vote against AnthonyOstrich's motion to create currency.

AnthonyOstrich's motion to create currency has received 0 in favor, 3 apposed. AnthonyOstrich's motion to create currency has failed.


I'll try my hand at a simple currency rule.

I make a motion to create a currency called Galactic Credits. Each player, upon first posting in the thread receive 10 Credits. Players who have already posted in this thread before this motion is put into affect will receive 10 Credits as soon as/if this motion passes. Players may use Credits as a medium of exchange for trading any items or possessions which are created by future rules, unless those rules specifically say otherwise. For purposes of voting, this motion shall be refereed to as AnthonyOstrich's motion to create simple currency.
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Re: Nomic!

Post by Terrabyte20xx »

I cast my vote against AnthonyOstrich's motion to create simple currency, as there is no reason for currency.

Furthermore, I make a motion that there can only be 1 motion up for vote per user.(ie, Anthony can only have 1 motion for vote, I can only have 1, Scott can only have 1 etc. until that motion has be voted on, which we can then make another.) This may be referred to as Terrabyte20xx's Anti-Clutter Policy.
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Re: Nomic!

Post by AnthonyOstrich »

I cast my vote against Terrabyte20xx's Anti-Clutter Policy.
I can understand the need for a limit, but 1 is too low.

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  • AnthonyOstrich's motion to create simple currency: 1 in favor, 1 apposed.
    Terrabyte20xx's Anti-Clutter Policy: 1 in favor, 1 apposed.
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Post by Slayer »

I cast my vote against Terrabyte20xx's Anti-Clutter Policy.

I'd also like to cast my vote against AnthonyOstrich's motion for a simple currency, for a currency is not needed.

I make a motion in revision of Terrabyted20xx's Anti-Cluster Policy, that each person shall be allowed to have 2 motions up due to the lack of people. This should be known as Slayer's Clutter Limit.
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